DeletedUser285
Guest
why is it that i cannot evolve the gingerbread house from lvl 2 to 3 after completing the 20 pieces required ? this has been the same in all worlds , am i missing something?
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Winter Magic
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Killiak
Artisan
You don't just need 20 pieces, you need Artifacts.
These are indeed Grand Prizes, but not for every time you complete 20.
Sir Derf
Adept
There is too much Gingerbread, and too many houses, in the event.
When you complete the first Quest, you receive the Gingerbread Mansion evolving building, Level 1. To Evolve the Gingerbread Mansion through Levels 2-10, you need 9 Gingerbread Mansion Artifacts.
When you open a present, you get a hammer. When the Gingerbread Man uses a hammer, you get 1-3 Gingerbread Bricks. 20 Gingerbread Bricks are used to build a Gingerbread House.
Every time you finish a Gingerbread House, you get a grand prize. Starting with the first grand prize, every other grand prize is a Gingerbread Mansion artifact.
In summation, to evolve the Level 1 Gingerbread Mansion to Level 10, you need to open many presents, get many hammers, have the Gingerbread Man use the hammers to get 340 Gingerbread Bricks, which will build 17 Gingerbread Houses, producing 17 grand prizes, which will include 9 Gingerbread Mansion artifacts.
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When you complete the first Quest, you receive the Gingerbread Mansion evolving building, Level 1. To Evolve the Gingerbread Mansion through Levels 2-10, you need 9 Gingerbread Mansion Artifacts.
When you open a present, you get a hammer. When the Gingerbread Man uses a hammer, you get 1-3 Gingerbread Bricks. 20 Gingerbread Bricks are used to build a Gingerbread House.
Every time you finish a Gingerbread House, you get a grand prize. Starting with the first grand prize, every other grand prize is a Gingerbread Mansion artifact.
In summation, to evolve the Level 1 Gingerbread Mansion to Level 10, you need to open many presents, get many hammers, have the Gingerbread Man use the hammers to get 340 Gingerbread Bricks, which will build 17 Gingerbread Houses, producing 17 grand prizes, which will include 9 Gingerbread Mansion artifacts.
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Pauly7
Magus
So I've reached up to the crazy section of - produce supplies, gain supplies, produce supplies, gain supplies, all with different descriptions. I agree that this is poorly thought out, but ultimately if I was trying to achieve anything with this event then the more annoying thing is the "gain 15 vision vapour" quests that I've had three of turn up in a short time. Considering that I'm not about to craft things that I don't want for this event then each one of those has me hanging around for 2 or 3 days, potentially, even if I had enough CC.
DeletedUser8409
Guest
I for one have zero objection to repeating supplies quests with different numbers. We have always had that! Previously you might get x Bread, then y beverages and then z toolboxes. Now it's different amount of supply quantities which you can strategically do however you want. That's a good change IMO.
However what's harsh is the quantity of goods needed. Not sure where these numbers came from. I'm currently needing about 18 precious rings with MM spell that doesn't seem right and I'm not even in the Hard section yet.
However what's harsh is the quantity of goods needed. Not sure where these numbers came from. I'm currently needing about 18 precious rings with MM spell that doesn't seem right and I'm not even in the Hard section yet.
DeletedUser8632
Guest
Well - and I am not saying this to mock you - In my chapter the amount of supplies repeatedly required is mind-numbing while I have no issues with the goods.
Killiak
Artisan
Well, no need to wait until lthe end of the event I guess.
Art; Pretty good overall, with an exception for the actual Gingerbread house.
Event screen; Not so great. A bit ugly, even.
Event system; RNG galore, and that sucks . Ribbon gain vs expenditure for a daily is utter shit.
Quests; Well, Inno did listen a bit, dividing up the basics and the advanced.
Rewards; yeah, you royally messed up on this one.
Final judgement; Good art and implementing a wee bit of feedback doesn't count for anything when you so royally screw up the event and reward system as a whole. Why is that every time you decide to take up a little bit of the feedback, you feel the need to screw up a bit more as well and take all the planning and fun out of the next event?
Another D-.
Deleted User - 1759805
Guest
Similar view on supplies vs goods here (at chapter 15). One thing to note is that if you have extra time, you can grind out supplies quests with shorter time productions (even 5 min productions deliver quite a bit), and it is certainly easier to round up big collections that way. You can't do that with goods productions.
Also, in the end game you still need supplies if you're fighting, but you generally don't really need goods, so natural supplies production is usually better developed anyway.
CheesePlant
Seeker
Why did they change to random quests? It's not fun and as people have said before me we're slow to pickup goods or units just in case they're required for the next quest that randomly appears.
Timneh
Artisan
The devs did not like players making plans and strategies as to how they would do the events so changed things so that players could no longer make plans and strategies, or maybe the devs just wanted to remove most of the fun from events, if that is the reason they did a very good job of it.
DeletedUser8632
Guest
I said that somewhere else before (but I had too much Christmas Punsch last night, so I can't remember where): The devs are clearly not incompetent, the overall quality of the game is tribute to that. Which leaves a) somebody who IS utterly incompetent is making the devs do stuff or b) they have a slightly sadistic and somewhat cruel inclination. Neither works well.
m4rt1n
Adept
For info, I have unlocked 9 artifacts while still on the latter of the regular quests.
Yes luck came into it on occasion, getting an x2 then a 200 ribbon, or reveal shows a x2 and shuffle after the daily prize, but also along the way I won silly craftable 2x1 and and lots of 1kp instants.
I believe everyone who completes the normal quests should be able to get 1 Gingerbread fully upgraded over the time of the event with regular play. Even if you need to spend the next 20+ days collecting around the city and doing a couple of the extra quests.
Yes luck came into it on occasion, getting an x2 then a 200 ribbon, or reveal shows a x2 and shuffle after the daily prize, but also along the way I won silly craftable 2x1 and and lots of 1kp instants.
I believe everyone who completes the normal quests should be able to get 1 Gingerbread fully upgraded over the time of the event with regular play. Even if you need to spend the next 20+ days collecting around the city and doing a couple of the extra quests.
Sir Derf
Adept
9 Artifacts = 17 Grand Prizes = 340 Gingerbread Bricks = 114-340 presents = 5700-17000 (Average 2 brick rate, 8500)
100 ribbons initial
100 ribbons e-mailed
4809 ribbons 130 quests 17-57
840 ribbons 28 days 30 ribbons/day
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5849 ribbons
8500 ribbons average needed - 5849 ribbons earned = 2651 ribbons needed in bonus quests = 133 bonus quests,
For average luck.
4-5 bonus quests per day, every day, for 50% of people to be fully upgradable.
I suppose it depends on if you consider 133 bonus quests to be a couple extra...
DeletedUser7781
Guest
Question: Why do players get penalized for doing event faster? I am on the bonus quests, but with only 20 ribbons per quest, which take 3, 9 or double hours to produce out of maxed manufactories, its impossible to gain enough ribbons to open 1 set of chests per day, so you basically exclude fast performers from gaining speeds, kp and such. I am very disappointed in this event, first, you cant choose type of chest you want to win, second you are screwed on gaining ribbons