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The most robbing and disgusting event ever!

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by dhalgren, Dec 11, 2018.

  1. dhalgren

    dhalgren Dreamer

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    I wish to ask Elvenar Team is they them satisfied to robbing the effort , the joy of the game and money of the players by such a miserable and nasty way? I'm playing the game almost from 2 years, I have participating in many events, but this time your greedeness went outside all reasonable limits!!! For nine days I have invest more then 1300 snowflakes and pay 6 times and for all this time i have recieved ONLY ONE DAILY PRIZE- in the first day! I am more than sure that this is not the result of an incidental coincidence. This is a robbery! I hade investing in this game over 1,000 euros, and most responsibly I say to you that such a mockery is a conscious act of dishonesty , from that only you lose! I know you will erase this post, but I'm shure there are many other players, thinking like me.I do not intend to spend more money in this swamp, in which you put us, thinking that we are gullible idiots.
     
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  2. SoggyShorts

    SoggyShorts Scholar

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    That is well within normal odds. About the same chances as flipping a coin 10 times and only getting heads 3 times. Totally normal.

    I have 1 account that spent almost 2700 snowflakes to get 2 prizes (average 1350 each like you) and
    I have 1 account that spent almost 1,000 snowflakes to get 4 prizes (average 250 each).

    That's just how luck and random numbers work.
     
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  3. dhalgren

    dhalgren Dreamer

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    Looking purely mathematically even in probability theory when you only participate in bets with a 20 or 25% chance of a daily prize, there is no way not to win after 9 or 10 consecutive attempts. In this event I fail fourth times after such a series of attempts. I am also a very good mathematician, the cup of patience overflows with such fake and deliberately programmed dice!
     
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  4. Killiak

    Killiak Necromancer

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    If you were, you wouldn't have even made your first post.


    20% chance, 10 tries -> 10,7% chance to NOT win a daily
    25% chance, 10 tries -> 5,6% chance to NOT win a daily

    "no way".
     
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  5. dhalgren

    dhalgren Dreamer

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    As much as your mathematical logic justifies such a "malhance," a commercial look at such a disgusting gameplay policy where the player has almost no chance to win and only pour money on the wind will repel anyone willing to invest money. Continue in the same spirit.
     
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  6. Killiak

    Killiak Necromancer

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    It's amusing to me, because I won my first and second set daily on the first click.

    Sorry for your bad RNG, but your little tantrum is both ill advised and flat out wrong.
     
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  7. Rigr

    Rigr Seeker

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    I feel you, dhalgren. I've lost so many chances too... :( But that's how RNG works. AFAIK there's nothing "sinister" going on behind the scene. And in case of Elvenar, the low low percentages in getting things make it more ruthless.
     
  8. Pauly7

    Pauly7 Illusionist

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    I feel your pain as I too have been left screaming at the computer because the daily prize I had been banking on was not forthcoming even though I'd fed 1,000 nuts or flakes or whatever they were (not this event, I'll hasten to add).

    Your grievance, however, is not with Inno - it's with the Gods of probability. Killiak and SoggyShorts are absolutely right. If you had spent 100,000 snowflakes and still did not have getting on towards the average amount of prizes then something would be starting to look odd, but you haven't. You have spent 1,300 snowflakes... and because it is a relatively very small sample then there will be many people playing this game in the same position that you are in, frustrating as it may be. Equally there will also be people who have won four times as many daily prizes as they should.
     
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  9. FatOldElf

    FatOldElf Bard

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    Must love watching when someone trying to calculate RNG :D
     
  10. Paladestar

    Paladestar Seeker

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    Random is random, so alas some times you lose out, other times you win big.

    On my main city on EN2 I have won 11 daily prize buildings so far and still have a little over 2500 flakes left. Very happy with this.

    On my other city on EN3 I've also won 11 daily prize buildings so far, but only have a little under 300 flakes left. Not so happy with this!

    Both cities have not bought any flakes and finished all of the sequential quests in the first 2-3 days of the event.
     
  11. FatOldElf

    FatOldElf Bard

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    welcome to random, you just got unlucky

    on en1 last time i got 6 wells
    on en2 last time i got 8 wells
    on en3 last time i got 5 wells

    from generated diamonds i leveled MA to level 5
    got last level of builder
    and i think 6 premium expansions

    FOR FREE :p

    ----------------------------------------------

    on en2 this time i got 10 wells + waiting for next well day
    on en3 this time i got 4 wells + waiting for next well day

    LOTS of free diamonds for my main en1 city :p (Horny Buddha)

    1. If you decide to invest, dont cry later.
    2. As you can see, luck totaly random.
     
  12. Kethalia

    Kethalia Novice

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    I've only been playing 1-2 weeks and I have never bought snowflakes, I've had 5 'prizes' which I think is a lot, but usually I do not do well with the RNG, I think you just had bad luck, nothing sinister, just unlucky. :(
     
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  13. m4rt1n

    m4rt1n Shaman

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    Bad luck and sour grapes come to mind, it has been a great event to play through for me and remember Elvenar is totally FREE to play if you choose.
    Spin a few more if you wish, and maybe the RNG will work in your favour.

    Myself I have had days and events where I think the game is rigged,(ask the support guys in my early days) but looking back over many events and almost 2 years playing I've done quite well and see that luck eventually balances out.

    You need to remember that making a purchase does not increase the odds, keep that in mind and you will learn to enjoy the events, and if not, just dont participate and ignore them.
     
  14. BrightBlazeBlade

    BrightBlazeBlade Spellcaster

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    Jun 9, 2018
    I have not made a single purchase
    My city is still standing tall, and I achieved a lvl 3 builder from the chest at the start of dwarves and the diamonds I won in the odd one out competetition. I have also made 175 diamonds from 2 wishing wells
     
  15. vroot twofoot

    vroot twofoot Seeker

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    The only thing for Inno to watch out for is it tips the whole thing a bit toward gambling. Events like this turn your browser into a fixed odds betting machine where the payout is game items. I'm sure Inno have people horizon scanning recent legal moves, especially in the EU. Could bite them though.
     
  16. Dr.nYo

    Dr.nYo Adventurer

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    what amount of diamonds are you talking about here , just wanna know some rough number. and yeah its rng based but info could prove usefull
     
  17. Paladestar

    Paladestar Seeker

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    Using only flakes from the 100 quests, daily quests and drops...

    11 Frozen Shipwrecks, 6 Frost Carved Christmas Trees, 3 Winter Fairs, 2 Market Stalls

    Good event I guess. ;)
     
  18. FatOldElf

    FatOldElf Bard

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    premium expansions

    1st- 450 diamonds
    2nd- 750 diamonds
    3rd- 1000 diamonds
    4th- 1250 diamonds
    5th- 1500 diamonds


    magic academy lvl 3 - 250 diamonds
    magic academy lvl 4 - 500 diamonds
    magic academy lvl 5 - 750 diamonds

    5th level of builder - 1500 diamonds

    all this is worth 7950 diamonds + i have spend about 3k by now on random stuff, mostly on refreshing crafting >_<

    total of over 10k free diamonds
     
  19. IamMiky

    IamMiky Seeker

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    Lol spot on,one in my FS won 6 wells with 850sf-I spent 1300 got none,but got two event daily buildings before,and in a previous one I got 5 wells from 6 attempts,win some lose some.
     
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  20. m4rt1n

    m4rt1n Shaman

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    I spin 3 or 4 times then reload the game and try later as maybe the servers get stuck with the same RNG not being so random, as last week I won 6 buildings in a row, and also have similar experiences with the same prize boosts etc..
     
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