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Discussion News from Beta (may contain spoilers!)

JackLuyt

Sorcerer
A new Challenge just started in Beta Server - so perhaps we will see it in the Live Worlds next week.

It is identical to previous editions - you gain medals to win rewards from any of the 6 different Workshop runs, and any of the 4 types of Spell.

I like these! They are a harmless way to add spice to a week without making things over-challenging - and the more of these they have, the fewer Adventures - which I find a bit stressful if they repeat too often.




There is no building reward - just Combining Catalysts and Vision Vapors.


 
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LazyTony

Sorcerer
The quests I can see on Gems of Knowledge ask for "1 Enchantment item" or various workshop items. My guess would be that includes spells and crafted items, or just do the workshop thing. Would need to a beta to player to confirm properly.
 

Wowwie

Spellcaster
1 Produce Beverages 5 times Fire Phoenix 8
2 Recruit 15 units Storm Phoenix 9
3 Spend 2 Knowledge Points Aureate Phoenix 9
4 Accept 3 trade offers Pet Food 9
5 Solve 1 Encounter or Solve 5 tournament encountersPet Food 10
6 Place 3 trade offers Pet Food 10
7 Produce Simple Tools 4 times Workshop 11
8 Collect a fair amount of supplies 11
9 Accept 4 trade offers 11
10 Collect a big amount of coins 12
11 Gain 20 culture 12
12 Collect 3 relics 13
13 Produce [Tier 1 Boost] [3 hrs]
14 Recruit 30 units 14
15 Produce Beverages 8 times Workshop 14
16 Produce Simple Tools 8 times Workshop 15
17 Collect 6 relics 15
18 Produce Advanced tools 6 times 15
19 Train a mighty amount of Units 16
20 Collect a small amount of [Tier 1 Boost] 16
21 Gain 60 population 17
22 Produce Beverages 8 times 17
23 Produce Simple Tools 14 times 18
24 Produce Basket of groceries 6 times 18
25 Scout 1 Province or Recruit 50 units 9
26 Gain 100 spell fragments OR
Collect a fair amount of supplies 19
27 Produce [Tier 1 Boost] [3 hrs] 2 times 19
28 Produce Beverages 13 times 20
29 Produce Simple Tools 16 times Pet Food 21
30 Produce Advanced tools 6 times Pet Food 21
31 Collect or use spells 1 time OR
Scout 1 Province Pet Food 22
32 Produce [Tier 1 Boost] [3 hrs] 5 times 22
33 Produce [Tier 1 Boost] [9 hrs] 2 times 23
34 Gain 30 culture 24
35 Solve 5 Encounters OR
Solve 25 tournament encounters 25
36 Produce Beverages 14 times 25
37 Produce Simple Tools 18 times 25
38 Produce bread 10 times 26
39 Produce [Tier 1 Boost] [3 hrs] 6 times 26
40 Fight and win in 2 Encounters OR
Recruit 60 units 27
41 Produce [Tier 1 Boost] [9 hrs] 3 times 28
42 Produce Basket of groceries 6 times 29
43 Collect or use spells 3 times 29
44 Collect a fair amount of supplies 29
45 Spend 8 Knowledge Points 30
46 Produce Beverages 15 times 5 minWS 30
47 Produce Simple Tools 20 times 31
48 Produce Toolbox 3 times OR
Collect or produce 3 Combining Catalysts 31
49 Collect 1 Enchantment item OR
Produce Basket of Groceries 1 time 31
50 Train a mighty amount of Units 32
51 Produce [Tier 1 Boost] [3 hrs] 7 times 32
52 Accept 6 trade offers 33
53 Produce [Tier 1 Boost] [9 hrs] 4 times 34
54 Collect a big amount of coins 35
55 Accept 7 trade offers Pet Food 35
56 Gain 50 culture Pet Food 35
57 Collect 9 relics Pet Food 36
58 Produce Beverages 16 times 36
59 Produce bread 10 times 36
60 Collect 12 relics 37
61 Scout 1 Province OR
Gain 600 spell fragments 37
62 Produce Advanced tools 8 times 38
63 Produce [Tier 1 Boost] [3 hrs] 8 times 38
64 Collect a big amount of coins 39
65 Research 1 technology OR
Upgrade 2 buildings to level 5 or higher 39
66 Produce Beverages 17 times 40
67 Produce Simple Tools 22 times 40
68 Collect a fair amount of supplies 41
69 Produce Basket of groceries 10 times 41
70 Train a mighty amount of Units 41
71 Fight and win in 3 Encounters OR
Recruit 70 units 42
72 Produce [Tier 1 Boost] [3 hrs] 8 times 42
73 Recruit 80 units 43
74 Produce [Tier 1 Boost] [9 hrs] 6 times 44
75 Solve 5 Encounters OR
Solve 25 tournament encounters 45
76 Produce Beverages 24 times 45
77 Accept 8 trade offers 45
78 Produce bread 12 times 46
79 Produce Simple Tools 24 times 46
80 Train a mighty amount of Units OR
Research 1 technology 47
81 Produce Simple Tools 25 times 47
82 Produce Basket of Groceries 10 times 47
83 Collect a fair amount of supplies 48
84 Spend 12 Knowledge Points 48
85 Scout 1 Province OR
Recruit 90 units 48
86 Collect 15 relics 49
87 Collect a small amount of Steel 50
88 Produce Simple Tools 26 times 50
89 Produce bread 16 times 51
90 Collect a fair amount of supplies 51
91 Produce toolbox 9 times 51
92 Produce [Tier 1 Boost] [3 hrs] 10 times 52
93 Produce [Tier 1 Boost] [9 hrs] 8 times 53
94 Collect a big amount of coins 54
95 Collect 1 Enchantment item OR
Produce Basket of Groceries 1 time 54
96 Research 1 technology OR
Upgrade 3 buildings to level 11 or higher 55
97 Collect a small amount of [Tier 1 Boost] 55
98 Collect 18 relics 56
99 Upgrade 3 buildings to level 13 or higher OR
Research 1 technology 56
100 Collect a small amount of [Tier 1 Boost] 56
101 Spend 16 Knowledge Points 58
102 Produce Simple Tools 5 times Workshop 58
103 Produce Basket of Groceries 15 times 59
104 Gain 50 population 59
105 Collect a small amount of [Tier 1 Boost] 59
106 Produce [Tier 1 Boost] [9 hrs] 8 times 61
107 Produce Simple Tools 27 times 62
108 Produce Basket of Groceries 12 times 62
109 Produce Toolbox 2 times OR
Collect 2 Enchantment items 63
110 Recruit 30 units 63
111 Train a mighty amount of Units 63
112 Accept 4 trade offers 64
113 Collect a big amount of coins 64
114 Solve 3 Encounters OR
Solve 15 Tournament Encounters 64
the quest list have a lot of WS T! quests and it has a lot of OR choices
 

SoggyShorts

Sorcerer
Are two of the event quest lines asking for enchantment items, that is, for crafted items?
The quests I can see on Gems of Knowledge ask for "1 Enchantment item" or various workshop items. My guess would be that includes spells and crafted items, or just do the workshop thing. Would need to a beta to player to confirm properly.
"Enchantment item" means a spell.
Jack's facebook and GoK's list are both using a google translate from the italian list, here's a better one:
www.tinyurl.com/phoevo
 

Heartman

Soothsayer
"Enchantment item" means a spell.
I believe an enchantment means just that. Power of Provisions, Ensorcelled Endowment, Magical Manufacturing, Inspring Meditation and Combining Catalyst are all enchantments in the game, and can be found in your inventory under the enchantments tab.
 

JackLuyt

Sorcerer
Blueprints now visible in Inventory

Here is something interesting that just appeared in the Mobile App!

At present only in Beta Server - and that would also depend on which version of the game is in your App Store (I got this from a fellowship member; mine does not have this; it shows broken shards)

UPDATE: Apparently it's not just Beta and not different versions - it depends on what recipes you have. If you have recipes that need shards or blueprints, then mobile shows their number. Once these recipes are gone, you don't see them anymore.


 
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FieryArien

Scholar
Blueprints now visible in Inventory

Here is something interesting that just appeared in the Mobile App!

At present only in Beta Server (...)
Wow, thanks for the info, I totally missed that! Not only on Beta Server - this is from here, from Winyandor international server. App version 1.76.1, iOS:
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SoggyShorts

Sorcerer
It's not beta and not different versions - it depends on what recipes you have. If you have recipes that need shards or blueprints, then mobile shows their number. Once these recipes are gone, you don't see them anymore.
Uh oh @JackLuyt looks like you might have cobbled together some bad info.:p
 

LazyTony

Sorcerer
Great, now if I sing the chant of summoning on a harvest moon beneath the ancient oak tree then I can see how many of one of the games most valuable items I have. :p
 

Sir Derf

Illusionist
Interesting, I haven't seen much discussion about the Evolution of the Phoenix Event.

By my accounting and estimation, the event has 114 sequential quests offering a total of 4,048 Sky Essence, it should have 28 daily quests totaling 980 Sky Essence, and the dropped eggs, which I will estimate at 24 Sky Essence/day totaling 672 Sky Essence, suggesting a grand total of 5,700 Sky Essence for the entire event.


If you are going for Grand Prizes/Phoenix Artifacts:

The average of the 7 best chests for overall Feather production (why would you open the 2 worst) is 22.2 Sky Essence per Feather, and each Grand Prize requires 20 feathers, so I predict 444 Sky Essence per Grand Prize, which suggests 12.8 Grand Prizes. Phoenix Artifacts are odd numbered Grand Prizes, so this then suggests 6 Phoenix Artifacts.

Wow, that's not a lot of PAs, given that we get three buildings that have 10 stages, so can be evolved 9 times, so ultimately wanting 27 PAs...


If you are going for Daily Prizes:

The average of the 7 best chests for Daily Prizes is 303 Sky Essence per Daily Prize, which suggests 18.8 Daily Prizes.


So, what are people's thoughts about the Evolution of the Phoenix Event?
 

SoggyShorts

Sorcerer
So, what are people's thoughts about the Evolution of the Phoenix Event?
It's a bit of a mixed bag imo.
Pros:
  • new evolution system where you choose 1 Phoenix to level up a lot or 2 or 3 just a little.
  • super easy quests- probably the easiest major event ever.
  • no mixed T1 productions
  • no T1 24h or 48h productions
  • never more than 27 beverages in one sitting
Cons:
  • very lackluster "consolation" prizes when opening chests if you don't get the daily
  • all chests have low % chance to win daily, so it can feel grindy to open 20-30 before you win one.
  • Phoenicis are not balanced (fire has clearly superior stats)
  • Daily prizes so far don't offer much for late game players (1 timer day, 1 seeds bldg, 1 mana bldg, 3 low pop hybrids and 6 pure culture so far)
 

UlyssesBlue

Enchanter
Would you mind posting the best chests in order, for maximum # grand prizes?
List of chests from best (1) to worst (7) that give the best value for money in terms of feathers gained.
Note that the Bronze and Gold chests have the same value for money, hence why they have the same rank number. Same goes for Green and Sea Green.
1.
Light Wood (costs 18 SE)
2.
Dark Wood (costs 20 SE)
3.
Purple (costs 82 SE)
4.
Bronze (costs 25 SE)
4.
Gold (costs 46 SE)
5.
Red (costs 49 SE)
6.
Green (costs 26 SE)
6.
Sea Green (costs 36 SE)
7.
Blue (costs 28 SE)

Source: https://elvengems.com/phoenix-2019/phoenix-chests/