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Discussion News from Beta (may contain spoilers!)

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Muf-Muf, Sep 19, 2017.

  1. JackLuyt

    JackLuyt Sorcerer

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    A new Challenge just started in Beta Server - so perhaps we will see it in the Live Worlds next week.

    It is identical to previous editions - you gain medals to win rewards from any of the 6 different Workshop runs, and any of the 4 types of Spell.

    I like these! They are a harmless way to add spice to a week without making things over-challenging - and the more of these they have, the fewer Adventures - which I find a bit stressful if they repeat too often.

    [​IMG]


    There is no building reward - just Combining Catalysts and Vision Vapors.


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    Last edited: Mar 25, 2019
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  2. Lelanya

    Lelanya Summoner

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    Aug 28, 2016
    Groan!! Phoenix Event in 2 weeks folks
     
  3. SoggyShorts

    SoggyShorts Sorcerer

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    Nov 13, 2018
    Hooray! Phoenix Event in 2 weeks folks!
     
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  4. Killiak

    Killiak Shaman

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    Aug 4, 2016
    Get your egg on.
     
  5. SoggyShorts

    SoggyShorts Sorcerer

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    Nov 13, 2018
    There's really awesome potential in this event- Start stockpiling CC spells now
     
  6. JackLuyt

    JackLuyt Sorcerer

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    May 12, 2017
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  7. Sir Derf

    Sir Derf Enchanter

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    Jul 25, 2018
    Are two of the event quest lines asking for enchantment items, that is, for crafted items?
     
  8. LazyTony

    LazyTony Sorcerer

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    Jan 30, 2018
    The quests I can see on Gems of Knowledge ask for "1 Enchantment item" or various workshop items. My guess would be that includes spells and crafted items, or just do the workshop thing. Would need to a beta to player to confirm properly.
     
  9. Wowwie

    Wowwie Spellcaster

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    May 18, 2017
    1 Produce Beverages 5 times Fire Phoenix 8
    2 Recruit 15 units Storm Phoenix 9
    3 Spend 2 Knowledge Points Aureate Phoenix 9
    4 Accept 3 trade offers Pet Food 9
    5 Solve 1 Encounter or Solve 5 tournament encountersPet Food 10
    6 Place 3 trade offers Pet Food 10
    7 Produce Simple Tools 4 times Workshop 11
    8 Collect a fair amount of supplies 11
    9 Accept 4 trade offers 11
    10 Collect a big amount of coins 12
    11 Gain 20 culture 12
    12 Collect 3 relics 13
    13 Produce [Tier 1 Boost] [3 hrs]
    14 Recruit 30 units 14
    15 Produce Beverages 8 times Workshop 14
    16 Produce Simple Tools 8 times Workshop 15
    17 Collect 6 relics 15
    18 Produce Advanced tools 6 times 15
    19 Train a mighty amount of Units 16
    20 Collect a small amount of [Tier 1 Boost] 16
    21 Gain 60 population 17
    22 Produce Beverages 8 times 17
    23 Produce Simple Tools 14 times 18
    24 Produce Basket of groceries 6 times 18
    25 Scout 1 Province or Recruit 50 units 9
    26 Gain 100 spell fragments OR
    Collect a fair amount of supplies 19
    27 Produce [Tier 1 Boost] [3 hrs] 2 times 19
    28 Produce Beverages 13 times 20
    29 Produce Simple Tools 16 times Pet Food 21
    30 Produce Advanced tools 6 times Pet Food 21
    31 Collect or use spells 1 time OR
    Scout 1 Province Pet Food 22
    32 Produce [Tier 1 Boost] [3 hrs] 5 times 22
    33 Produce [Tier 1 Boost] [9 hrs] 2 times 23
    34 Gain 30 culture 24
    35 Solve 5 Encounters OR
    Solve 25 tournament encounters 25
    36 Produce Beverages 14 times 25
    37 Produce Simple Tools 18 times 25
    38 Produce bread 10 times 26
    39 Produce [Tier 1 Boost] [3 hrs] 6 times 26
    40 Fight and win in 2 Encounters OR
    Recruit 60 units 27
    41 Produce [Tier 1 Boost] [9 hrs] 3 times 28
    42 Produce Basket of groceries 6 times 29
    43 Collect or use spells 3 times 29
    44 Collect a fair amount of supplies 29
    45 Spend 8 Knowledge Points 30
    46 Produce Beverages 15 times 5 minWS 30
    47 Produce Simple Tools 20 times 31
    48 Produce Toolbox 3 times OR
    Collect or produce 3 Combining Catalysts 31
    49 Collect 1 Enchantment item OR
    Produce Basket of Groceries 1 time 31
    50 Train a mighty amount of Units 32
    51 Produce [Tier 1 Boost] [3 hrs] 7 times 32
    52 Accept 6 trade offers 33
    53 Produce [Tier 1 Boost] [9 hrs] 4 times 34
    54 Collect a big amount of coins 35
    55 Accept 7 trade offers Pet Food 35
    56 Gain 50 culture Pet Food 35
    57 Collect 9 relics Pet Food 36
    58 Produce Beverages 16 times 36
    59 Produce bread 10 times 36
    60 Collect 12 relics 37
    61 Scout 1 Province OR
    Gain 600 spell fragments 37
    62 Produce Advanced tools 8 times 38
    63 Produce [Tier 1 Boost] [3 hrs] 8 times 38
    64 Collect a big amount of coins 39
    65 Research 1 technology OR
    Upgrade 2 buildings to level 5 or higher 39
    66 Produce Beverages 17 times 40
    67 Produce Simple Tools 22 times 40
    68 Collect a fair amount of supplies 41
    69 Produce Basket of groceries 10 times 41
    70 Train a mighty amount of Units 41
    71 Fight and win in 3 Encounters OR
    Recruit 70 units 42
    72 Produce [Tier 1 Boost] [3 hrs] 8 times 42
    73 Recruit 80 units 43
    74 Produce [Tier 1 Boost] [9 hrs] 6 times 44
    75 Solve 5 Encounters OR
    Solve 25 tournament encounters 45
    76 Produce Beverages 24 times 45
    77 Accept 8 trade offers 45
    78 Produce bread 12 times 46
    79 Produce Simple Tools 24 times 46
    80 Train a mighty amount of Units OR
    Research 1 technology 47
    81 Produce Simple Tools 25 times 47
    82 Produce Basket of Groceries 10 times 47
    83 Collect a fair amount of supplies 48
    84 Spend 12 Knowledge Points 48
    85 Scout 1 Province OR
    Recruit 90 units 48
    86 Collect 15 relics 49
    87 Collect a small amount of Steel 50
    88 Produce Simple Tools 26 times 50
    89 Produce bread 16 times 51
    90 Collect a fair amount of supplies 51
    91 Produce toolbox 9 times 51
    92 Produce [Tier 1 Boost] [3 hrs] 10 times 52
    93 Produce [Tier 1 Boost] [9 hrs] 8 times 53
    94 Collect a big amount of coins 54
    95 Collect 1 Enchantment item OR
    Produce Basket of Groceries 1 time 54
    96 Research 1 technology OR
    Upgrade 3 buildings to level 11 or higher 55
    97 Collect a small amount of [Tier 1 Boost] 55
    98 Collect 18 relics 56
    99 Upgrade 3 buildings to level 13 or higher OR
    Research 1 technology 56
    100 Collect a small amount of [Tier 1 Boost] 56
    101 Spend 16 Knowledge Points 58
    102 Produce Simple Tools 5 times Workshop 58
    103 Produce Basket of Groceries 15 times 59
    104 Gain 50 population 59
    105 Collect a small amount of [Tier 1 Boost] 59
    106 Produce [Tier 1 Boost] [9 hrs] 8 times 61
    107 Produce Simple Tools 27 times 62
    108 Produce Basket of Groceries 12 times 62
    109 Produce Toolbox 2 times OR
    Collect 2 Enchantment items 63
    110 Recruit 30 units 63
    111 Train a mighty amount of Units 63
    112 Accept 4 trade offers 64
    113 Collect a big amount of coins 64
    114 Solve 3 Encounters OR
    Solve 15 Tournament Encounters 64
    the quest list have a lot of WS T! quests and it has a lot of OR choices
     
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  10. SoggyShorts

    SoggyShorts Sorcerer

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    Nov 13, 2018
    "Enchantment item" means a spell.
    Jack's facebook and GoK's list are both using a google translate from the italian list, here's a better one:
    www.tinyurl.com/phoevo
     
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  11. Heartman

    Heartman Soothsayer

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    Jan 10, 2018
    I believe an enchantment means just that. Power of Provisions, Ensorcelled Endowment, Magical Manufacturing, Inspring Meditation and Combining Catalyst are all enchantments in the game, and can be found in your inventory under the enchantments tab.
     
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  12. JackLuyt

    JackLuyt Sorcerer

    Joined:
    May 12, 2017
    Blueprints now visible in Inventory

    Here is something interesting that just appeared in the Mobile App!

    At present only in Beta Server - and that would also depend on which version of the game is in your App Store (I got this from a fellowship member; mine does not have this; it shows broken shards)

    UPDATE: Apparently it's not just Beta and not different versions - it depends on what recipes you have. If you have recipes that need shards or blueprints, then mobile shows their number. Once these recipes are gone, you don't see them anymore.


    [​IMG]
     
    Last edited: Apr 6, 2019
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  13. FieryArien

    FieryArien Enchanter

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    Sep 14, 2018
    Wow, thanks for the info, I totally missed that! Not only on Beta Server - this is from here, from Winyandor international server. App version 1.76.1, iOS:
    7797B2B4-9C32-4985-A55B-6193F4543F5E.jpeg
     
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  14. SoggyShorts

    SoggyShorts Sorcerer

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    Nov 13, 2018
    Uh oh @JackLuyt looks like you might have cobbled together some bad info.:p
     
  15. LazyTony

    LazyTony Sorcerer

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    Jan 30, 2018
    Great, now if I sing the chant of summoning on a harvest moon beneath the ancient oak tree then I can see how many of one of the games most valuable items I have. :p
     
  16. Sir Derf

    Sir Derf Enchanter

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    Jul 25, 2018
    Interesting, I haven't seen much discussion about the Evolution of the Phoenix Event.

    By my accounting and estimation, the event has 114 sequential quests offering a total of 4,048 Sky Essence, it should have 28 daily quests totaling 980 Sky Essence, and the dropped eggs, which I will estimate at 24 Sky Essence/day totaling 672 Sky Essence, suggesting a grand total of 5,700 Sky Essence for the entire event.


    If you are going for Grand Prizes/Phoenix Artifacts:

    The average of the 7 best chests for overall Feather production (why would you open the 2 worst) is 22.2 Sky Essence per Feather, and each Grand Prize requires 20 feathers, so I predict 444 Sky Essence per Grand Prize, which suggests 12.8 Grand Prizes. Phoenix Artifacts are odd numbered Grand Prizes, so this then suggests 6 Phoenix Artifacts.

    Wow, that's not a lot of PAs, given that we get three buildings that have 10 stages, so can be evolved 9 times, so ultimately wanting 27 PAs...


    If you are going for Daily Prizes:

    The average of the 7 best chests for Daily Prizes is 303 Sky Essence per Daily Prize, which suggests 18.8 Daily Prizes.


    So, what are people's thoughts about the Evolution of the Phoenix Event?
     
  17. SoggyShorts

    SoggyShorts Sorcerer

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    Nov 13, 2018
    It's a bit of a mixed bag imo.
    Pros:
    • new evolution system where you choose 1 Phoenix to level up a lot or 2 or 3 just a little.
    • super easy quests- probably the easiest major event ever.
    • no mixed T1 productions
    • no T1 24h or 48h productions
    • never more than 27 beverages in one sitting
    Cons:
    • very lackluster "consolation" prizes when opening chests if you don't get the daily
    • all chests have low % chance to win daily, so it can feel grindy to open 20-30 before you win one.
    • Phoenicis are not balanced (fire has clearly superior stats)
    • Daily prizes so far don't offer much for late game players (1 timer day, 1 seeds bldg, 1 mana bldg, 3 low pop hybrids and 6 pure culture so far)
     
  18. Killiak

    Killiak Shaman

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    Aug 4, 2016
    @Sir Derf

    Would you mind posting the best chests in order, for maximum # grand prizes?
     
  19. UlyssesBlue

    UlyssesBlue Conjurer

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    Oct 30, 2017
    List of chests from best (1) to worst (7) that give the best value for money in terms of feathers gained.
    Note that the Bronze and Gold chests have the same value for money, hence why they have the same rank number. Same goes for Green and Sea Green.
    1. [​IMG] Light Wood (costs 18 SE)
    2. [​IMG] Dark Wood (costs 20 SE)
    3. [​IMG] Purple (costs 82 SE)
    4. [​IMG] Bronze (costs 25 SE)
    4. [​IMG] Gold (costs 46 SE)
    5. [​IMG] Red (costs 49 SE)
    6. [​IMG] Green (costs 26 SE)
    6. [​IMG] Sea Green (costs 36 SE)
    7. [​IMG] Blue (costs 28 SE)

    Source: https://elvengems.com/phoenix-2019/phoenix-chests/
     
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  20. Killiak

    Killiak Shaman

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    Aug 4, 2016
    UlyssesBlue, my hero ;)
     
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