Answered Advice for Archmage

[Lord Turin]

Just wondering as the Archmage of a newly formed Fellowship, would the following be a reasonable guideline
Promotion to Mage after score of 200,000 points is achieved
Promotion to Ambassador after a score of 100,000 points has been reached

 

[SkyRider99]

You are entitled to set your own guidelines @Lord Turin. If you are basing the award of titles purely on player score, then those seem like reasonable targets.

In my case I award the titles according to merit within the fellowship. For example, those who help others, support the fellowship, and who can be trusted.

Remember that a Mage can do some serious damage to a fellowship, if they are so inclined.

Best wishes with your new fellowship.

 

[Alcaro]

In my FS the titles are only "lucrative", no one gets honorific titles. My Mages have tasks to do and are helping me to run the FS's activity as smooth as possible. Then are the Ambassadors - ppl are getting this title if they've achieved the minimum of their tasks (tourny, spire). If someone becomes Fellow, it's a silent warning or heads-up that something wasn't ok in the previous week.

 

[Pauly7]

Agree with @Alcaro. The mage title usually implies an assistant manager role with certain responsibilities, etc. Most teams have a certain number of Mages and along with the AM that is kind of a management team.

There are a lot of different ideas on what makes an Ambassador. Some people make it purely honorific. Some assign different roles to Ambassadors too. Remember that aside from Mages and the AM, Ambassadors can open FA great chests. They can also invite and accept new members.

At the end of the day, you can administer it how you like, but personally I apply a considered approach to either.

 

[Giraffi]

We had a serious fight in my first fellowship that came as a result of assigning mages titles according to experience points. New members came in that had a far bigger score than some of the longer term members, who had joined soon after the fellowship was created and had been there for some time. Some things were said which was taken in the wrong way and that led to quite a few members leaving and the AM quiting.

My advice would be to find other ways in how you value the support of your co-players.

 

[Alcaro]

I avoided from the beginning to assign Mage titles based on how long someone played the game or rankings. Since a Mage can do so much more (good but also bad) than showing off a title, also to avoid discussions, I decided that no matter the rank or time played, if that player can do something really useful for the FS then might get the Mage title. Anyway, I decided (because I can ) that my FS will not have more than 4 Mages. If one of them can't complete their task(s) and someone wants/ can to do it, then the Mage title would be transferred to new guy who takes the assignments.
Keeping things simple and clear is the best thing to have a happy FS.

 

[GSV3MiaC]

I concur, mages need to be trustworthy (not accidentally spending perk points or opening FA chests, or kicking members) and set a good example in spire, tourney, FA, and reading/answering chat. If they are rude and unhelpful it doesn't matter how many million points they have, they don't make the cut. If someone with a million points joins the FS it is, always helpful to wonder why (elvenstats good for history check!). Maybe they visiting Angel, maybe on the run.

 

[schadenfreude]

Not everyone who gets their homework assignments in (minimums) take the time to learn the game, especial new events or features like FS perks. As others have said, mages have a lot of power to do stuff. Power in of itself is neutral but is used by the whims of the wielder. If they don't take the time to learn what's going on, something like Perks become an experiment in pushing shiny new buttons. Also, someone in the US forum claims someone new joined, was promoted to mage, then booted everyone out of the fellowship and changed the FS name. Sounds like an inside job and maybe some drama with how things are run.

 

[Lymhir]

Just wondering as the Archmage of a newly formed Fellowship, would the following be a reasonable guideline
Promotion to Mage after score of 200,000 points is achieved
Promotion to Ambassador after a score of 100,000 points has been reached

First of all, calling Titles mere Operational Profiles is quite a wrong thing to do. Archimage, Mage, Ambassador and Fellow are to me mere User Profiles that define what you can do or not do, to confuse them as many fellowships do with a form of rewarding hierarchy and thus a true Honorific Title is rubbish.
Titles should be a different thing that are defined by the Archimage itself at its discretion and awarded as it sees fit and do not pertain to the operations of running the fellowship.

Now what you should be asking yourself is: do I need someone to carry out actions reserved for Archimage?
If yes then you need someone to have a Mage profile.
As for the Ambassador profile I consider it useless and even harmful, if during the AF by mistake or not he presses Collect it is a big trouble!

Assignment based on score is unacceptable, what do you do if a new player arrives with 1000K? do you set Mage a perfect stranger whom you don't know if you can trust or not?

 

[SkyRider99]

Titles should be a different thing that are defined by the Archimage itself at its discretion and awarded as it sees fit and do not pertain to the operations of running the fellowship.

You gave me an idea @Lymhir. What about if, in addition to the existing 'titles', the Archmage could bestow special non-operational honorifics. Such as Tournament Champion, Spire Specialist, AW Helper Extraordinaire.

I'll post it in the Ideas and Suggestions. Probably will go into a black-hole, but what the heck.

 

[Silly Bubbles]

It's really all up to you, there's no right or wrong way of doing it. Of course, each way has some benefits and shortfalls but overall they're all pretty well on par. When I was Archmage, I used it as an opportunity to do it the way I want to do it and see how it goes, there's no rules or expectations or judgment of the way you do it as long as it works for you and your fellows and they know what to expect. In my current FS we are all mages. There are risks with that but it works quite well. Even if unexpected things happened, I'm sure that we would still get together as things work quite well.

 

[Lord Turin]

Thank you everyone for taking the time to reply to my post, I think i'll take the time served approach, combined with the persons ability to help others in the FS, I've only been playing the game for just over 2 years, and thought it time to have a go at my own FS, I knew it wouldn't be easy,. Skyrider99 the idea of non-operational honours sounds like it would be a great addition to the game