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No definitely not. It is not a good strategy to donate to your own wonders and I don't want all the KP swap threads and Wonder Societies out there to be immediately un-useable just for an unnecessary fix of a bigger problem.
So they have much more responsability in this matter. No excuses after all.If there's one thing that 'Freemium' games do very well, whether they openly say so or not, it's recording and analysing the behaviour of their players - after all, that's how they find out what sells and what doesn't, and therefore what to invest in and what toignoreput on the back burner (NB: this is just me being realistic, and is not in any way an endorsement of the way in which gaming companies nowadays so frequently, and so blatantly, prioritise profit above novel, high-quality, innovative, and/or long-term appealing - or even enjoyable - gameplay). I once had a conversation with Support staff which I know I'm not allowed to reproduce here, but I can see no harm in mentioning that during said conversation, Support told me that they record every single mouse-click made by each and every player (as well as, one assumes, the mobile phone equivalent) in pursuit of the aim of data-gathering and analysis... so I very much doubt that they're unaware of any (in fact, all) 'pushing' that takes place. Based on this, not only do I agree that it's not our job, as players, to police the game - but I'd also say that we're far less well-equipped to attempt such a feat than InnoGames themselves.
If there's one thing that 'Freemium' games do very well, whether they openly say so or not, it's recording and analysing the behaviour of their players - after all, that's how they find out what sells and what doesn't, and therefore what to invest in and what toignoreput on the back burner (NB: this is just me being realistic, and is not in any way an endorsement of the way in which gaming companies nowadays so frequently, and so blatantly, prioritise profit above novel, high-quality, innovative, and/or long-term appealing - or even enjoyable - gameplay). I once had a conversation with Support staff which I know I'm not allowed to reproduce here, but I can see no harm in mentioning that during said conversation, Support told me that they record every single mouse-click made by each and every player (as well as, one assumes, the mobile phone equivalent) in pursuit of the aim of data-gathering and analysis... so I very much doubt that they're unaware of any (in fact, all) 'pushing' that takes place. Based on this, not only do I agree that it's not our job, as players, to police the game - but I'd also say that we're far less well-equipped to attempt such a feat than InnoGames themselves.
I agree, but it is another example of not looking at the bigger picture. They could ban someone with push accounts and that may lose them a few pounds in the short term... but if they did do it, could it actually end up earning them more money in the long term because they would have a base of happy players that understand the rules and aren't put off by the fact that others may be getting themselves unfair advantages. Happy players leads to a more enjoyable game and therefore more long term profit.Kicking out paying towns due to rule breaking actually costs Inno money, so the motivation is rather low to do that. They will only do it if they think the consequences of not kicking out a certain town is worse than keeping it.
Inno are capitalist of course, but priority number one still has to be making the most enjoyable game experience possible because capital gain can't happen without it.
You´re assuming little push accounts are diamond cities? If so, your logic of why InnoGames is keeping them in the game would be valid, "cause money is the boss here"... But push accounts are not "diamond" cities, maybe the owner of those push accounts is a whale, or maybe an occasional diamond buyer but not his/her push accounts... So InnoGame does not has excuses to not do something with push "cheating" accounts.The game is just the byproduct. The point is to make money, so as long as Inno think that a more enjoyable game makes more money they will make it more enjoyable. If they think that push accounts make more money than many happy players we´re out of luck.
The truth is most likely somewhere in between. Inno wants both cakes. happy players AND the money spending push accounts. Trying to juggle the two is where this silly dance is coming from. If they decided on one of the two groups the action would be swift and direct and would have happened a long time ago. Trying not to kick out anyone that pays and keeping the majority of people happy anyway is the tricky part, so they have to pretend to do something, while not actually doing it
I would think this one is probably the case, but it occurs to me as well that surely using push accounts is likely to reduce someone's diamond usage so again getting rid of them could make them more money long term.maybe the owner of those push accounts is a whale
You´re assuming little push accounts are diamond cities? If so, your logic of why InnoGames is keeping them in the game would be valid, "cause money is the boss here"... But push accounts are not "diamond" cities, maybe the owner of those push accounts is a whale, or maybe an occasional diamond buyer but not his/her push accounts... So InnoGame does not has excuses to not do something with push "cheating" accounts.
No I do not assume the little ones are anything but KP factories, but the big city on the receiving end, quite often (not always) will be a diamond spender. The small ones are of no importnace to anyone, deleting them will also be of no consequence, you can recreate them in 10 seconds not deleting them does no harm to anyone either.
I´m dying for tagging one very well known "player" that represents exactly that, but forum rules tho..Not everyone will be of course, and now I begin to speculate wildly, without any semblance of knowing real numbers: I would guess among all the push accounts that do get deleted for pushing are a higher percentage of not-diamond spending towns than there are among the ones that do get reported for pushing After all if you have push accounts without ever spending (big) diamonds, you are the perfect scapegoat for Inno, by deleting you, Inno make other players happy and lose no paying customers.
I am really building a whole conspiracy theory here
I´m dying for tagging one very well known "player" that represents exactly that, but forum rules tho..
I´m tired of reporting them and always they (Inno) replying me with the same robotic dialogue, they always reply me the same and the cheaters keep doing their amazing work.Now in the completely hypothetical case that I knew a push account, I would think "don´t we all", but of course I have no knowledge whatsoever of anybody ever breaking a rule!
If you don´t report a rulebreaker, you are actually breaking game rules. just saying... Maybe it´s called harboring a fugitive?
So Inno can run around blaming the problem on you instead of doing something about it.
Their reply is nothing to worry about, that is kind of dictated by privacy laws and not really Innos fault. There is nothing they can say that makes you happy. But the lacking results are a different story.I´m tired of reporting them and always they (Inno) replying me with the same robotic dialogue, they always reply me the same and the cheaters keep doing their amazing work.
I would love to tag all those cheaters (with push accounts) here, so they could help us out here, but is forbidden by forum rules. They ban you for doing that but not the push accounts themselves or the owner of them.
Hmmmmm, I just had a thought. Yes, it is against the rules to post/tag those names here. However, as many other game play resources have gone the way of third party sites, there is nothing that could prevent someone from creating a website out there to list such players. It could even be created so that anyone could add their lists, crosrefference by accuser, by fellowship, etc..... Sort of like a global ElvenGems.cheeters page or PlatinumLeaf.cheeters@facebook page. Just a thought.
Note: the potential websites above do not exist (yet), and therefore cannot violate any current posting rules.