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Other Panda bear

pompeywolf

Scholar
As it stands the panda feeding effect is very underwhelming, especially compared to the effect of the other 2 bears, with polar being like a high level timewarp and brown being a massive boost to troop production (with timeboosts it’s makes the production of troops a non issue). With the speculation that it may be possible to convert new bear artefacts to old ones in the autumn event like with phoenix event, I think its time this changed to make the panda a decent equivalent to the other bears.

So, I suggest a slight change to the effect of the panda, so that instead of receiving goods from using petfood (which is in such short supply compared to timeboosts) that you get the goods from using magical manufacturing spells.

MM spells are not abundant with a 3 in rounds 5 and 6 of the tournament, 6 in the current 10 chests and with a level 5 MA one can be made every 8 hours but this is limited as a lot of people need continuous CC production to keep us with crafting. This would allow people to make some decent amounts of goods but not be as exploited as the brown bear with timeboosts.
 

Pauly7

Immortal
An improvement to the Panda Bear would be welcome. I'm not sure what the impact would be though. I think there are a lot of people holding more than 1,000 MM spells right now.
 

Hekata

Necromancer
It's the same problem as with the Blue bird and the Duck vs the fire Phoenix. They are almost useless pets. The Storm Phoenix in particular. It need both pet food and MM spells to work and the effect only last 3,5 hours! That maybe had sense when we were swimming in pet food but now it's ridiculous. It has been pointed out many times that the fighters have always gotten all the perks and it looks like with the new tournament system that's not going to change, catering hasn't gotten any cheaper than before.
 

pompeywolf

Scholar
True some are holding that many spells but the majority are not likely to. But this holds true for the time instants with the brown bear.
 

Pauly7

Immortal
It's the same problem as with the Blue bird and the Duck vs the fire Phoenix.
The duck on level 10 actually gives a 300% boost to all production for 3.5 hours. That's quite significant. I don't really know why I upgraded the bluebird when its feeding effect only gives a third of the weight and only to those manus that are boosted with MMs.
 

Gargon667

Illusionist
The duck on level 10 actually gives a 300% boost to all production for 3.5 hours. That's quite significant. I don't really know why I upgraded the bluebird when its feeding effect only gives a third of the weight and only to those manus that are boosted with MMs.
The Stormbird is actually very powerful, but it is a specialised tool. Nothing can make you play through chapter 15 faster. It produces insane amounts of sentient goods. using time boosts on 3 h Sentient productions. But outside of chapter 15 nobody needs that many sentient goods, so unless you want to run very low sentient factories I see not much point.

For regular goods production I would agree the Golden bird is much easier to use (although the Storm still works the same way).

I personally was lazy and got the new bird as a second option after the Firebird, gives a little T4 production, but I never have to do anything at all with it lol, no pet food, no nothing...
 

Pauly7

Immortal
The Stormbird is actually very powerful, but it is a specialised tool. Nothing can make you play through chapter 15 faster. It produces insane amounts of sentient goods. using time boosts on 3 h Sentient productions. But outside of chapter 15 nobody needs that many sentient goods, so unless you want to run very low sentient factories I see not much point.

For regular goods production I would agree the Golden bird is much easier to use (although the Storm still works the same way).
I did the same thing with the blue bird in chapter 15... Are you saying, then, that the duck only boosts T1-T3?
 

Pauly7

Immortal
It would make sense, because if it boosts sentient also then the Storm Phoenix feeding effect can only give a smaller slice of what the duck's feeding effect also gives. I've never tried it, but I have one so I may do it to see.
 

Gargon667

Illusionist
It´s so long ago I looked into the birds and then shortly again last phoenix event.
I remember I put the Storm as Top Choice behind the Firebird, so I am sure it is more useful than the duck in some way and that indicates the Duck only does regular goods, because the numbers on the duck are better than on the Storm. Also I remember I recommended the duck to a low level catering only town.
 

Harry12Neo

Conjurer
It's the same problem as with the Blue bird and the Duck vs the fire Phoenix. They are almost useless pets. The Storm Phoenix in particular. It need both pet food and MM spells to work and the effect only last 3,5 hours! That maybe had sense when we were swimming in pet food but now it's ridiculous. It has been pointed out many times that the fighters have always gotten all the perks and it looks like with the new tournament system that's not going to change, catering hasn't gotten any cheaper than before.
Fire Phoenix is surely not comparable to those two with pet food.I'm sure many players are wanting a Fire Phoenix more than WW,bears and many other buildings.