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Discussion Winter Magic!

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Dizzy Lizzie, Nov 29, 2018.

  1. Killiak

    Killiak Illusionist

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    How much would that give you per 24h?

    Also, I personally prefer the Grand Prizes, because there is no RNG involved in getting them. All you need is Snowflakes and the DoubleDays.
    Not to mention the set is relatively compact and gives 3KP every 24 hours, for eternity.
     
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  2. m4rt1n

    m4rt1n Necromancer

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    I have a fellow who is stuck on the solve x encounters quests because they require Orcs and haven't unlocked them yet.
    I thought this issue have been dealt with by the introduction of tournament encounters, but it seems a backwards step has been taken by inno.
    I have advised them to contact support if they are completely stuck.
     
  3. SoggyShorts

    SoggyShorts Soothsayer

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    Each set factory gives about as much as a max level factory.
    Considering that a factory needs a workshop and residences and culture and roads this means each factory is worth multiple expansions. From 3 to 12 depending chapter.
    If you are in mana chapters, the frost set building is about the size of a library but produces more mana than 7 Libraries.
    Also they basically never go bad as even a chapter 5 set building is more efficient than a chapter 13 factory.
     
  4. Killiak

    Killiak Illusionist

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    @SoggyShorts Thank you Soggy.


    @Dizzy Lizzie
    As for the event;
    - While the art is great, again, I find it a real shame that the Yeti just keeps repeating the same text over and over.
    - Furthermore, the event has these horrendous quests again that will make people quit the event, or be unable to continue. I find it hard to believe that Inno is/was incapable of quickly adjusting the quests for this, especially after the glowing reviews for the Halloween event quests.
    - Newsletters. Same problems, different event. Fail.


    So all in all, it really feels like Inno just slapped together a template for a quick event to end up the year without too much effort, mucking about with their newsletter once again.
    The only people I will give positive points to is the art team.
     
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  5. Sir Derf

    Sir Derf Soothsayer

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    Chapter 6, Grand Prize Snow Owl set.

    If I've done my math correctly, the full set produces for me 5,820 Elixir / day. A Chapter 6 Level 15 Elixir Manufactory can produce 2,487 Elixir / day (9-3-3-3-3-3). 234% output.

    That 20 square Elixir Manufactory needs 2,087 Population, 417 Culture, and a boatload of associated roads, for an effective 162 squares. For equivalent daily output to a single Snow Owl set, that totals 379.08 used squares, using 4,883.58 Population and 975.78 Culture.

    On the other hand, the 30 square set provides 920 Population, 1,220 Culture, 69,000 Gold and 3 Knowledge / day. Not sure how to count the Knowledge, but counting the Pop and Culture, it has an effective -72.81 used squares. If you were to replace 2.34 existing Ch6-EM-15s and supporting buildings with a Snow Owl set, that would be the equivalent of gaining 451.89 unused squares, or just over 18 Expansions.


    And I thought Traveling Merchant IIIs were the bees knees (well, after Trading Outposts, which have actual bees knees). I am actually stunned.
     
  6. oscar park

    oscar park Dreamer

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    How can I get encounters? I don't have Orcs to get them from Provinces.
     
  7. SoggyShorts

    SoggyShorts Soothsayer

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    @Sir Derf
    Just wait till you run the numbers on getting 3-4 of each stalls+fairs+sleds
    It's like getting 20-60 expansions depending on chapter.
    I'm aiming for around 45 expansions worth of production
     
  8. Dizzy Lizzie

    Dizzy Lizzie Co-Community Manager Elvenar Team

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    Please open a ticket with Support.
     
  9. Sir Derf

    Sir Derf Soothsayer

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    I'll need to dig into Elven Architect to get the numbers... Later, my Quest 34 6x24 hour Workshop is about to finish...
     
  10. CleverAngel777

    CleverAngel777 Spellcaster

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    Sorry, I forgot that in statistics everything's possible. haha

    I've done my calculation and if I consider the odds of 2nd best chests for the purpose, collect 30 snowflakes a day and complete all quests, I should be able to get 5 buildings on top of Snow Owls set. But of course all depends on luck and needs to get adjusted based on the progress.
     
  11. Dizzy Lizzie

    Dizzy Lizzie Co-Community Manager Elvenar Team

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    Thank you for doing that @m4rt1n Anyone in a similar position should contact Support.
     
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  12. Sir Derf

    Sir Derf Soothsayer

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    Can anyone tell me, for the Winter Market set, 4 of the buildings give goods, but which goods? I'll throw out a guess that, since Snow Owls gives Tier3, then between the four buildings they give out the 4 unboosted Tier1 and Tier2 goods. Does each building give incrementally better of the same good, or do they rotate through?

    Anyone? Bueller?

    *edit: Duh! I already got 1. So, for me, Market Stalls produces progressively more Steel, so a Tier 1. Any ideas on what the other 3 might give?
     
  13. Sir Derf

    Sir Derf Soothsayer

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    Also, I'm concerned that my city was founded on top of a magma chamber that might some day erupt, as while the surrounding perimeter is snow covered, my city appears to be in the middle of a patch of clear, unsnowy ground...
     
  14. m4rt1n

    m4rt1n Necromancer

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    Most likely the heat island effect from all those buildings. :D
     
  15. SoggyShorts

    SoggyShorts Soothsayer

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    @Sir Derf
    The stalls give T1+1
    So 1 to the right of your T1 boost.
    The fair is T2+1
    The sled is t3+1
     
  16. Lelanya

    Lelanya Shaman

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    Fight!
    Look for a cheap province
    Write support
     
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  17. Sir Derf

    Sir Derf Soothsayer

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    So, with boosts of Marble, Crystal and Gems,

    Market Stalls give Steel
    Winter Fair gives Scrolls
    Sled Carousel gives Elixir (Just like both Snow Owls buildings)

    What about the Frost Carved Christmas Tree?
     
  18. SoggyShorts

    SoggyShorts Soothsayer

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    It's T3 and I'd guess T3+1 specifically.
     
  19. SoggyShorts

    SoggyShorts Soothsayer

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    I've been thinking more about this, and I think the opposite may be true.

    6 months ago players had 3-7 of each boosted factory, 15-30 residences, and 7-12 workshops for making goods.

    Now with the 2 Woodstock sets, and the winter set a player can have the same output with less than half the factories, residences and workshops.
    That's more variety and fewer rows.

    If the trend continues, then each major event players could get small unique sets and never need more than 1 of each factory. Powerful set buildings could lead to cities that have zero repeat buildings:eek:
    The RR spell (if it ever gets released) could further this vision by making various unique event culture/pop buildings viable going forwards.
     
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  20. Killiak

    Killiak Illusionist

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    @SoggyShorts I don't think I could handle the feeling of "cluttered" such a city would give me...
     

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