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Swich off option for KPs

Flamele

Spellcaster
Please make a switch off option on new feature "add all KPs into AW".
I see bad. And i keep misklicking. Instead of typing in needed amount i just thow away all my KPs. It is impossible to keep playing ((( for people on the run, in transport. Wherever. Please!
 

Silmaril

The Mabinogion Wyvern
Elvenar Team
The Knowledge Points bar, which this new mentioned option links to, should only hold either 10 Knowledge Points or if the Inspiring Meditation has been added 20 Knowledge Points. Rarely should this be more unless an Event reward has occurred. If the bar is used differently to this, it would be seen as outside of intended gameplay.
 

Flamele

Spellcaster
Yes, i play only on telephone. And i throw in hundreds of kps by misclick. It works in a moment, so i cant change it back. In addition i fill up the pull of AW which had free chests.
 

Pauly7

Manipulator of Time
The Knowledge Points bar, which this new mentioned option links to, should only hold either 10 Knowledge Points or if the Inspiring Meditation has been added 20 Knowledge Points. Rarely should this be more unless an Event reward has occurred. If the bar is used differently to this, it would be seen as outside of intended gameplay.
This doesn't account for certain playing styles, or game situations. At times I have had over 15,000KP in my KP bar.
 

Silmaril

The Mabinogion Wyvern
Elvenar Team
I appreciate that some players venture outside of what is deemed intended gameplay, same as some Fellowships operate Wonder Societies and Net Zero, but these are not officially recognised as part of the game. One of the reasons when reaching out to support, if it is not linked to intended gameplay we are unable to help.
 

Flamele

Spellcaster
but these are not officially recognised as part of the game. One of the reasons when reaching out to support, if it is not linked to intended gameplay we are unable to help.
Tournaments are part of the game. This is where i got my KPs.
And AWs are part of the game.
And chapters are part of the game and they want hundreds of KPs. Which i must keep ready.
I do not discuss kp threads now. I mean it is inconvenient that the game suggests me to pass all my KPs to another player without confirmation on a small for my eyes telephone. Making this part of gameplay - donating each other KPs and getting chests catastrophic.
This is nothing support can do, true. That is the reason i created a suggestion addressed to developers. I have no demands that support should go and change it, surely not, i ask developers to pay their attention.
There are many people who see bad or have other problem. And a part of game became not accessible for us. Its not inclusive, that is what i mean.
Thank you for understanding.
 

Silmaril

The Mabinogion Wyvern
Elvenar Team
As mentioned it would be expected that the Knowledge Points that you are getting from the World Map, would be simply used up quickly, adding to Ancient Wonders, whether your own or another players. It would never be assumed as part of normal gameplay that these would not just arrive and leave very quickly.
This is what is meant when mentioning the reason that the bar only accumulates up to 10 (or 20 if Enchanted).
 

Pauly7

Manipulator of Time
I understand that certain things are considered outside of normal gameplay, but I don't agree that this is one of them. For example, in a weekly tournament I can sometimes accumulate 700KP in the space of an hour or so. Do you / Inno consider that normal gameplay would be to continually stop and deposit the KP somewhere every time the meter hits 10, and thus likely doubling the length of time spent playing the tournament? Of course it will accumulate, even in that short time span. As soon as it accumulates then the problem, as described by @Flamele is immediately valid.

It can be debated whether the developers or other players agree that it is enough of a problem to address as there is a correct way to do it, without user error, in order to not accidentally deposit all your KP into the same AW, but there is certainly nothing wrong with bringing something like that to their attention if it is something that affects you.

I don't think there is any way that it would be correct to state - Normal gameplay is to always deposit all the KP in your KP bar into the same Ancient Wonder.
 

Silmaril

The Mabinogion Wyvern
Elvenar Team
Not at all Pauly, but after that Tournament round, it would be expected that players then deposited them out of the Knowledge Point bar and to then keep accruing the hourly points again.
I appreciate that this seems to be an issue for some of the app players, with the phrase fat fingers being quoted a few times today about this. It has already been passed back to see if a modification could be made, but it would have been remiss of me to not point out the way the Knowledge Point bar works, as increasing it to 20 with the Inspiring Meditation, really hints at what could be the ideal maximum.
 

Pauly7

Manipulator of Time
Not at all Pauly, but after that Tournament round, it would be expected that players then deposited them out of the Knowledge Point bar and to then keep accruing the hourly points again
But you're only illustrating my point, because even if this only happens once, twice, three times a week, and potentially only for a short time, the fact is that "normal play" has led to a situation where someone could have an excess of KP that they may wish to distribute as they see fit.

Anyway, I realise this conversation has run its course. I am not arguing my own corner as it has never been something to bother me, and you've also said that it's been passed back for consideration. I was just making points about what I see to be normal play, or intended play.
 

Hekata

Sage
What about a confirmation pop-up if the full amount of your KP bar (when it exceeds 10 or 20) is about to be deposited on an AW.
I love the new option and consider it one of the best addition to the game in a long time. but if some players have a this issue then, as @Jake65 suggested, confirmation window might be the best solution. Please just don't remove this new option.
 

Valedoress

Enchanter
If your own AW's are already Completed or simply at a point where adding KP's is not an option (waiting for Spell Frags or RR's before upgrading) then an accumulation of excess KP's beyond the 10 or 20 limit is inevitable. The fact that you might not want to dump them all on to another players AW is perfectly valid and as us mobile users know that unexpected touch-screen event can happen (I've collected many a CC's out of my MA by mistake!) and being on public transport would only may this nightmare scenario more likely.
 

Lelanya

Immortal
So I was picking at moving my alts along on this event as this Phoenix is sort of a 'must have' item. Point is i was on my phone at work. I just sort of poked at the outside edge of the select a number field, and it brought up the number selection area. That said, I am incredibly grateful that the mobile app is not my primary access and my fingers are quite small.
Just another example of the Devs seemingly streamlining the UI for the young and nimble.
 

Romilly

Enchanter
...there are a lot of event buildings, which give KPs - so my bar is often full quickly each day...

...maybe you could exchange this two buttons?
WPButton.png
...so that the "fat fingers" won't tip on the book, when they try to tip on the Ancient Knowledge...

...the book is usually on the left side not the right - see here...
WPButton2.png


...or here...
WPButton3.png
 
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Flamele

Spellcaster
Not at all Pauly, but after that Tournament round, it would be expected that players then deposited them out of the Knowledge Point bar and to then keep accruing the hourly points again.
I appreciate that this seems to be an issue for some of the app players, with the phrase fat fingers being quoted a few times today about this. It has already been passed back to see if a modification could be made, but it would have been remiss of me to not point out the way the Knowledge Point bar works, as increasing it to 20 with the Inspiring Meditation, really hints at what could be the ideal maximum.
Thank you a lot!!!
 
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