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New Spire rewards
- Thread starter Hekata
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Just to add to this, these changes will only be on BETA for the time being! I believe there was a bit of confusion with the phrase "all players"
Kind Regards
Herodite.
SkyRider99
Immortal
I was feeling confused, but that is becoming a normal state of affairs for me these days.
Hekata
Artisan
Latest announcement from the the mods on discord. This is for live servers.
As you know, we have been working on new Spire of Eternity Rewards in close communication with our Beta players and our wider community. After the initial news we shared back on July 1st, we have made several changes based on the valuable feedback and suggestions we received.
On July 12th:
With these changes, we've aimed to balance excitement with valuable rewards, ensuring every player can thrive in the Spire of Eternity. It’s also important for us to highlight that the overall value of these rewards is now superior to what you’ve known so far, despite fewer Diamonds being available. With the Eldian Sapphires, Pet Food, Blueprints, Tomes, Vitality Surges, Spectral Stones, the increase in Spell Fragments and Royal Restorations as well as the other items and resources we hope to make the Spire of Eternity more enticing for newcomers as well as our veteran players.
This new structure will hopefully make for an even better Spire of Eternity experience. But we won’t stop there! On top of these rewards, you can look forward to future improvements, such as a powerful new Spire Ancient Wonder, new stage effects, a new Spire Shop featuring a variety of cool items for you to acquire, a new spell akin to Portal Profit, and more!
Important: Due to technical limitations the Spire of Eternity starting on Sunday, August 25th will still display the old rewards in-game but we will enable the new ones on Monday 26th, meaning they will change for everyone then.
You can check all the details regarding these Rewards in the screenshots below!
As you know, we have been working on new Spire of Eternity Rewards in close communication with our Beta players and our wider community. After the initial news we shared back on July 1st, we have made several changes based on the valuable feedback and suggestions we received.
On July 12th:
- We reintroduced Magic Buildings in the form of a new Tome of Magical Foundations in the second stage Boss reward pool that allows you to choose between a Magical Residence, a Magical Workshop, or a Blueprint;
- and added 3 new Tomes of Threefold Virtues, providing Spectral Stones, Vitality Surges, and Time Reduction Instants – the further you progress, the better the Tome you will get.
- We added Teleport Building Spells as Medium Rewards (Medium 1, Medium 2, Medium 3) with a chance of 15%. We’ll also keep them as Fellowship Rewards for the three stage Milestones, as you’ve known them so far (110 Spirit Essence, 520 Spirit Essence & 1330 Spirit Essence collected). This brings the weekly average after 3 completed stages of available TBS up to 4,35 from the initial 3 TBS announced on July 2nd;
- and increased the amounts of Time Reduction Instants available for our Small (Small 1, Small 2, Small 3) and Medium (Medium 1, Medium 2, Medium3) rewards. For the Medium rewards, we will keep Time Reduction Instants as a selectable reward within Tomes.
- The weekly average for Time Reduction Instants after 3 completed stages went from 150,55h on July 1st to 157,9h on July 12th, to 171,55h on August 2nd. We also plan to introduce more Time Reduction Instants as rewards elsewhere in the game in the future, such as Events and Seasons.
With these changes, we've aimed to balance excitement with valuable rewards, ensuring every player can thrive in the Spire of Eternity. It’s also important for us to highlight that the overall value of these rewards is now superior to what you’ve known so far, despite fewer Diamonds being available. With the Eldian Sapphires, Pet Food, Blueprints, Tomes, Vitality Surges, Spectral Stones, the increase in Spell Fragments and Royal Restorations as well as the other items and resources we hope to make the Spire of Eternity more enticing for newcomers as well as our veteran players.
This new structure will hopefully make for an even better Spire of Eternity experience. But we won’t stop there! On top of these rewards, you can look forward to future improvements, such as a powerful new Spire Ancient Wonder, new stage effects, a new Spire Shop featuring a variety of cool items for you to acquire, a new spell akin to Portal Profit, and more!
Important: Due to technical limitations the Spire of Eternity starting on Sunday, August 25th will still display the old rewards in-game but we will enable the new ones on Monday 26th, meaning they will change for everyone then.
You can check all the details regarding these Rewards in the screenshots below!
SkyRider99
Immortal
Anni-Lizzie
Bard
This is extraordinarily detailed. Thank you @Hekata for the time it must have taken to copy all this. I’m sure those that have a maths brain and love the analysis of the increases and decreases with have a field day with all this. But…
It’s smoke and mirrors surely? At the end of the day, marginally more or less of most of this is ‘whatever’… it’s all based on chances of and such like. So at the end of the day it’s a roll of the dice what one boss or chest gives you with infinite opportunities- it feels like it has just made understanding the roll of the dice even more convoluted. Wrapping it up in tomes and other fancy stuff is fluff. There are only a few things that the spire gives that are essential for wholistic game play - speed ups, pp’s, armorers and diamonds. DIAMONDS. Reducing diamonds however you package it up with a super fancy bow, is impeding advancement. Making being able to afford expansions after you’ve exhausted the research ones and the map prov ones - impossible. Of course unless you spend real cash.
Which is the real goal isn’t it???
It’s smoke and mirrors surely? At the end of the day, marginally more or less of most of this is ‘whatever’… it’s all based on chances of and such like. So at the end of the day it’s a roll of the dice what one boss or chest gives you with infinite opportunities- it feels like it has just made understanding the roll of the dice even more convoluted. Wrapping it up in tomes and other fancy stuff is fluff. There are only a few things that the spire gives that are essential for wholistic game play - speed ups, pp’s, armorers and diamonds. DIAMONDS. Reducing diamonds however you package it up with a super fancy bow, is impeding advancement. Making being able to afford expansions after you’ve exhausted the research ones and the map prov ones - impossible. Of course unless you spend real cash.
Which is the real goal isn’t it???
Hekata
Artisan
Yes, their attempts to wrap a bow on nerfs are always amusing. Saying that the reduction in diamonds is compensated by supposedly giving us the items very items we spend our diamonds on is ridiculous because a) everyone spends their diamonds on different things b) the 3 things most players spend diamonds on are upgrading the MA, upgrading the Builder's hut and getting more expansions. Diamonds are versatile and no matter what prizes they put in the Spire it can't compensate for the diamond.
Having said this, I don't think we can really complain about the decision to reduce them. They are a premium currency and there was a time when there were no free diamonds whatsoever. What we can complain about is the silly attempt to making it sound like it's anything else than a decision to get people to spend more as well as the problematic situation created - again! - where newer players will be in a considerable disadvantage compared to the already established ones.
@SkyRider99 I agree about the time boosters very much. It's the thing that annoys me the most about the nerf, along with the teleports reduction.
Anni-Lizzie
Bard
Valedoress
Bard
Hmmm, getting a bit off topic aren't we...
Agreed @Valedoress
Please can we keep on topic my fiends.... no matter how deliciously tempting it is to slide off on a tangent
Kind Regards
Herodite.
Please can we keep on topic my fiends.... no matter how deliciously tempting it is to slide off on a tangent
Kind Regards
Herodite.
OldHag
Shaman
I haven't read all the changes yet, but I didn't have to look far down the list of changes to notice the reduction in diamonds and time boosters. and the chance to win spell fragments at the lower chests. There's a lot of people that only do the spire for those very rewards.
It's like all the rubbish that's been added to the MA.......Boring!
But, but, but pat yourselves on the back for reducing the chance of winning more PPs. Another reduction of those wouldn't hurt.
It's like all the rubbish that's been added to the MA.......Boring!
But, but, but pat yourselves on the back for reducing the chance of winning more PPs. Another reduction of those wouldn't hurt.
SkyRider99
Immortal
OK. @Hekata fantastic posting said all that needed to be said really. The rest of us just go 'wow'.
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And to stay 'on topic', Wow, the changes to Spire of Eternity rewards are different, aren't they.
Have a nice day.
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Fabulous Miz
Adventurer
Wait a minute, doesn’t it mean it’s now 5-10 weeks graft in the spire for any high chapter premium culture building… I’ll have to start saving.
Anni-Lizzie
Bard
Saw these…what will they do?You know that feeling when you've got lots of cash in your pockets but you don't know what to spend it on?
Okay, me neither, I guess it's something like this though
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Hekata
Artisan
You can buy premium culture buildings with them, instead of using diamonds.
Which would be an interesting option if one could also upgrade those buildings through the chapters. Some of them are quite beautiful but become useless after a chapter or 2.
The FS prizes in the Spire look so sad now
It's going to be hard to motivate players to go for gold. Such weird move on Inno's part. I get that they removed the diamonds but they should have put something more alluring in them than PPs. A Dwarven armoured for a silver medal would have been nice for instance.
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SkyRider99
Immortal
Thanks @Hekata.
I know what you mean. There's still the individual rewards though. But it might be surprising to see how they've been nobbled too.The FS prizes in the Spire look so sad now
Hekata
Artisan
Yes, but the way I see it, those people who were already going to the top regardless of gold will keep on doing that, but those who were motivated occasionally by a gold push might not want to do it anymore. A lot of people complain that they use over 100 diamonds to get to the top so the trip is not worth it anymore in their opinion. Personally I don't use any diamonds so even 100 diamonds is a gain for me but I seem to be in the minority.I know what you mean. There's still the individual rewards though. But it might be surprising to see how they've been nobbled too.