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Having a view on things is fine, trying to force them on others and telling them how they should act and play the game is not fine.
Bouncing from FS to FS is fine for the player doing the bouncing but it might not be OK for the other members of the FS. A player recently joined our FS because they wanted to see what it was like to do 10 chests in a tournament. When that player left after the tournament ended some of the other members felt that the player had used our FS for their own gain and then went back to wherever they came from.
I don't see how he would be able to "force" his view on anyone even if he wanted to. It's a view, anyone can disregard it.Having a view on things is fine, trying to force them on others and telling them how they should act and play the game is not fine.
And do you find this ironic that you just tried to force your view on how others may or may not behave on the forums?
Well we certainly weren't glad to have him. He arrived with a whole bunch of edicts as to what he was and wasn't prepared to do, a list that I can't imagine most fellowships would tolerate for long. He was warmly welcomed despite this and then without any explanation whatsoever simply left after a grand total of 5 days, which happened to be around 24 hours before the current tourney ended, taking his tourney points with him.we were glad to have you w/ us, even just for a short time.
NO i didn't
Maybe you should concentrate on your own game and not tell others how they should act in their game.
Really?
This attitude is not honoring him at all and certainly, make you smell a rat to his threads.Well we certainly weren't glad to have him. He arrived with a whole bunch of edicts as to what he was and wasn't prepared to do, a list that I can't imagine most fellowships would tolerate for long. He was warmly welcomed despite this and then without any explanation whatsoever simply left after a grand total of 5 days, which happened to be around 24 hours before the current tourney ended, taking his tourney points with him.
And you are right, people can play as seriously as they want. My issue is with what he said (and you too) that people who are not as serious should leave the game. And in general telling people how to play the game. I believe in a "play and let play" principal that should apply to all. There are different kind of players and different kind of fellowships. Everyone can find their place. Being a serious player doesn't give you the right to tell people how to play. All you can do is pick who you want in your FS and kick out the ones that don't fit in.
Well we certainly weren't glad to have him. He arrived with a whole bunch of edicts as to what he was and wasn't prepared to do, a list that I can't imagine most fellowships would tolerate for long. He was warmly welcomed despite this and then without any explanation whatsoever simply left after a grand total of 5 days, which happened to be around 24 hours before the current tourney ended, taking his tourney points with him.
Ok, Hekata, you've provoked me to amend my point. Fellowships have different playing styles and rules and are of course free to make and alter them as they wish. If a fellowship is willing to tolerate slacker players, then that's their choice. But I wouldn't want to be part of a fellowship that tolerates players who routinely violate the rules, especially those concerning minimum commitments (daily help, tournament scores, trades, etc.). I'm sure most of you agree with this idea -- I mean, you're here so you obviously care something about Elvenar. As I said in my first post, fellowships should be willing to give some space for otherwise committed players who for one reason or another can't participate regularly for a period of time deemed reasonable by mutual agreement. If one is going to be absent for a longer period of time, it's always possible to leave a fellowship and play as an independent until such time as regular play becomes possible again.
P.S A new thread is started for new ideas, new connections and new people.
Your feedback is always valuable though. However, I start a new thread to run away from stalkers from old threads.
(does it answer your question?)
The fundamental flaw with your argument is the last part of that sentence. Of course, you can always create your own FS (go 'freelance') and perform to whatever expectations you set for yourself. But otherwise, you are not free to play where you choose. Like a real job, you need to apply (or be invited). And that's when your track record becomes important. Loyalty and long term membership of a prior fellowship do not preclude you from moving on to fresh challenges if and when you feel the time is right. But they would be traits that would be welcomed by any prospective new employer. That same prospective employer might look at the CV of someone who has had 6 different jobs in the last 6 months and say "no thanks". I know I would.Play when you want, what you like and where you choose.
Persecution complex - paranoia?P.S A new thread is started for new ideas, new connections and new people.
Your feedback is always valuable though. However, I start a new thread to run away from stalkers from old threads.
(does it answer your question?)
Thank you so much to those who responded to my 2nd post "The best FS"
A special thank you to Hekata and Timneh for demonstrating what IDIONSYNCRASY is like, with their responses.
Despite many Mages and Archmages advertize their FS such as "easy-going, no push account, laid back", they all expect Fellows stay, and stay active in their FS like some kind of Employment.
Fellows must give help, report when they go on vacation, and would be eventually kicked out when they're not active enough. FS in return 'reward' Fellows with things like 10-chest, blue-print, KP-swap, neighbor help, fair trading, etc and etc.
Some viewers object the idea of treating this game like a job. Ironically, the same viewers also do not like FS-hoping. They prefer the comfort, the honor, the glory of life-time employment. They forgot the reality of FS, that eventually a decision to "jump ship now" or "wait to walk the plank" has to be made.
By joining a FS, you get a job. By moving to another FS, you simply change your job.
There WAS life-time employment, with 9-to-5 jobs, back from the 70s.
There is now also Free-Lance, work when you want, what you like, and where you choose.
Same with game. Play when you want, what you like and where you choose.