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Well, when we had a bug on EN2 server and got double of everything in 12 chests, that felt like a holiday, somewhere in between those 2 parameters (the current and a double) would be great ).
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This is what I try to tell myself. I suppose I have been lucky to win at least 5 Genies.Still waiting on a workshop as well,
I see it this way, I am in there for the long run, luck eventually evens out, eventually I will win them.
And even without the genie or magic workshop. at a certain time you can just buy workshops, and the spire itself is a genie on steroids when it comes to diamonds.
I strongly believe that Spire requires a major overhaul of rewards. I am in a 12-chest spire FS, but recently there is a strong notion of Spire not being worth the costs of troops and goods. I think we've had enough of Moonstone Library set, seriously how many of those buildings do we need??? The overwhelming number of scrolls has flooded the trader. If it was silk on EN2 server - then fine, I would probably place some of those buildings. Level 3 gives the most sense of not worthiness, because at least on levels 1 & 2 we can occasionally win some magic buildings, but level 3 just very costly with no great rewards. I would like to have 1 constant prize of 1 Dwarven Armorer to be won somewhere in Spire. We use those buildings every week and knowing that I am getting 1 on completion of every spire would give me some satisfaction. Also, I believe that the number of CCs and 5- hour time boosters within 12 chests can be increased, they are not very generous at the moment.
Hi CrazyWizard, they are not really 400 diamonds, are they? It's 275 guaranteed from 12 chests, everything else is pure chance. Also, you need to spend some diamonds for diplomacy, because you just do...If those are such great rewards according to you, why is it that not that many players are rejoiced to do spire?
Hi CrazyWizard, they are not really 400 diamonds, are they? It's 275 guaranteed from 12 chests, everything else is pure chance. Also, you need to spend some diamonds for diplomacy, because you just do...If those are such great rewards according to you, why is it that not that many players are rejoiced to do spire?
It's not just 2 players.lol this is coming from 2 players with 2-3 brown bears and almost all AWs maxed up (CrazyWizard). How is it that you are talking for everyone else??? I have my own opinion and I am managing 2 top FSs on 2 servers, I know how my players feel about Spire. You are both in a minority of players, so don't dismiss comments of other players!
lol this is coming from 2 players with 2-3 brown bears and almost all AWs maxed up (CrazyWizard). How is it that you are talking for everyone else??? I have my own opinion and I am managing 2 top FSs on 2 servers, I know how my players feel about Spire. You are both in a minority of players, so don't dismiss comments of other players!
Hi Pauly7, I am aware, both of my FSs are top performers in Spire, golden trophies week after week, most of our members finish Spire every single week, that is why we know what we are talking about. Every time we get moonstone library buildings - it's no reward at all, the rest are the spell fragments and at this point I would prefer those to library buildings because at least fragments I'll use... eventually lol. My original post was about rewards, especially for the level 3, I haven't seen Dwarven Armorer in a while, never mind genie. I simply pointed out that rewards should be revised. Moonstone library set has been there from the start and I am sure that everyone who wanted it - got it (10 times over lol).
I know all about your FS, we play on the same server lol. Do you even "listen" to what I'm saying or you are just arguing for the heck of it???75% of his AW levels are not helping him much (probably cost him more than they help him) and since he doesn´t fight, the brown bears have nothing to do with it.
You don´t need much to complete the spire every week. We have 25 people in the FS ranging from chapter 7 (and 20 AW levels) to 16 (with 300 AW lvls), all finish every week (except for holidays/work/time off etc).
The only thing you need is to play actively enough. Of course if you only log in once a day it gets more difficult to produce the necessary goods (or troops) in lower chapters.
Ah, finally! so you do agree with me lol. So wouldn't you like the rewards to be revised and get a better prizes for your efforts? Don't put this childish comments here please!Disenchant it then...
I agree for us who play a lot the library is not an insanely valuable prize anymore, so what? Put it together with all the PP spells in the box of "who cares". The team rewards alone are more than worth playing the spire for. The rest is just extra and over the top rewards.
Level 3 rewards are definitely poor, on a personal level. It seems to me that the top prizes for completing each level are Magic Residence, Magic Workship and Genie, respectively. Out of those three the Genie is the poorest of the three and so it is strange for it to be at the top. In any case the chances of winning them are remote. It's like when someone emails you and says "you've been selected for the opportunity to enter a competition". Hmm.Hi Pauly7, I am aware, both of my FSs are top performers in Spire, golden trophies week after week, most of our members finish Spire every single week, that is why we know what we are talking about. Every time we get moonstone library buildings - it's no reward at all, the rest are the spell fragments and at this point I would prefer those to library buildings because at least fragments I'll use... eventually lol. My original post was about rewards, especially for the level 3, I haven't seen Dwarven Armorer in a while, never mind genie. I simply pointed out that rewards should be revised. Moonstone library set has been there from the start and I am sure that everyone who wanted it - got it (10 times over lol).
Wonderful proposition Pauly7! I really love it! How do we make Inno listen to this now?Level 3 rewards are definitely poor, on a personal level. It seems to me that the top prizes for completing each level are Magic Residence, Magic Workship and Genie, respectively. Out of those three the Genie is the poorest of the three and so it is strange for it to be at the top. In any case the chances of winning them are remote. It's like when someone emails you and says "you've been selected for the opportunity to enter a competition". Hmm.
Personally, I'd like to see the top chest in each level to be something like the following:
Level 1: 5hr time instant (guaranteed), plus Magic Residence (10% chance)... or one of various others making up the other 90%
Level 2: 3 x 5hr time instant (guaranteed), plus Genie (5% chance)... or one of various others making up the other 95%
Level 3: Dwarven Armourer (guaranteed), plus Magic Workshop (5% chance)... or one of various others making up the other 95%
Spire set pieces should only remain part of the equation to players who don't already have one at chapter level in their city or inventory (we know they've got the skills to do this.)
Ah, well that's the 64 million dollar question!How do we make Inno listen to this now?
lol, I agreeAh, well that's the 64 million dollar question!
I know all about your FS, we play on the same server lol. Do you even "listen" to what I'm saying or you are just arguing for the heck of it???
Ah, finally! so you do agree with me lol. So wouldn't you like the rewards to be revised and get a better prizes for your efforts? Don't put this childish comments here please!
Level 3 rewards are definitely poor, on a personal level. It seems to me that the top prizes for completing each level are Magic Residence, Magic Workship and Genie, respectively. Out of those three the Genie is the poorest of the three and so it is strange for it to be at the top. In any case the chances of winning them are remote. It's like when someone emails you and says "you've been selected for the opportunity to enter a competition". Hmm.
Personally, I'd like to see the top chest in each level to be something like the following:
Level 1: 5hr time instant (guaranteed), plus Magic Residence (10% chance)... or one of various others making up the other 90%
Level 2: 3 x 5hr time instant (guaranteed), plus Genie (5% chance)... or one of various others making up the other 95%
Level 3: Dwarven Armourer (guaranteed), plus Magic Workshop (5% chance)... or one of various others making up the other 95%
Spire set pieces should only remain part of the equation to players who don't already have one at chapter level in their city or inventory (we know they've got the skills to do this.)
Oh, I see what you are saying, let's just play for the heck of it and not ask anything better, because chances are that the changes will bring us only everything worse? I believe that as experienced players we should tell Inno what should be improved in the game. Only a few of FSs go for golden trophies and most of players stir clear of it. Spire should be an important part of this game and most of players don't want to hear anything about it because of their bad experience there. That is why, as players who finish it every week and can afford it, we should tell what can be improved to make other players return to Spire.I answer exactly to what you say, look in what I quoted. You put nonsensical arguments forward, I disagree with them.
No I would not like the spire rewards changed. I find the spire is offering MORE than enough rewards as it is. You cannot expect 100% of amazing rewards, some rewards have to be crap. At least there are different rewards, so the chance that there is something good for everybody is higher.
Even more would only bring the next nerf on us faster and completely destroy the spire most likely, since that tends to be the way with Inno: Increase rewards to ridiculous amounts and then completely destroy it. So no, please not more rewards!
Again a very subjective subjective view on rewards, just because you have all magic buildings (we are very happy for you), doesn't mean that everyone else have them. Most of us get really happy to receive those in Spire. FYI I don't take you serious anymore, nothing that you have said so far, has any substance to it.But that is only personal preference...
For me the best prize is an Armorer, the second best the Genie and third on the list for me are Teleports.
Neither Magic Houses or Magic WS have any more value as I have enough of them already and will not place any more of them. Well I haven´t upgraded all my houses yet, so I guess if I get another House from the spire I can sell an old one and add a new one, so it will save me 300 Diamonds for the upgrade... Libraries are worth the same as a (16 square) Teleport (so I can sell a Library and replace it with a new one later)
Since I can get both of my preferred options from the last boss, the setup as is makes much more sense to me than changing it.
People will have preferences sure. The important part from my suggestion, though, was to have a guaranteed prize in each of the top chests of each level. This would take away some of the Spire anger because people would no longer be completely at the mercy of the RNG. Also, your favourite is the Armourer, which is what I placed as the guaranteed award for opening the top chest.But that is only personal preference...
For me the best prize is an Armorer, the second best the Genie and third on the list for me are Teleports.
Neither Magic Houses or Magic WS have any more value as I have enough of them already and will not place any more of them. Well I haven´t upgraded all my houses yet, so I guess if I get another House from the spire I can sell an old one and add a new one, so it will save me 300 Diamonds for the upgrade... Libraries are worth the same as a (16 square) Teleport (so I can sell a Library and replace it with a new one later)
Since I can get both of my preferred options from the last boss, the setup as is makes much more sense to me than changing it.