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Chapter 18 - Team Spirit

Rarely Here

Seeker
The enthousiasm for the new chapter can be felt, 2 pages in how many weeks? lol,
Just means we all know how the game works and haven't any issues, same mechanics as every chapter and some of us are hoping for more than a month in the waiting room when we finish. I like the 4* Archers, easy to train. Initially, the Merchant needed speeding up, seems plenty of people now to get the trades cleared fast. Oh, and I like some of the rewards for the story quests, great idea sprinkling diamonds into some.
 

Gargon667

Mentor
Indeed, they don't even have toilet paper, let alone books!
We do have the occasional books from looting some fancy peoples libraries (of course after first raiding the pantries), with the obvious lack of toilet paper production in the average Orc town, you can imagine how the two things connect!
 

Regina8

Spellcaster
Some notes on ascended trades:

1. 2000-2200 trades are ridiculous in the light of how much is needed for the upgrades.

2. The old trades should be removed straight away as trade has been picked up or the merchant has been reset. Those old trades are easy pickings, not helping anyone, except the person with rare ascended, which is unnecessary, since they don't have any problems of getting what they need. They don't even need to hire merchants, so this is a terrible situation for those of us with abundant goods. At least if the old trades are removed, then the person with rare ascended would be helping others and not just themselves. On EN3 server the situation is especially difficult for those of us boosted in minerals, I'm close to throwing the towel, I have never been so frustrated with any chapter.
 

Skallywag

Novice
Some notes on ascended trades:

1. 2000-2200 trades are ridiculous in the light of how much is needed for the upgrades.
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...except the person with rare ascended, which is unnecessary, since they don't have any problems of getting what they need. They don't even need to hire merchants, so this is a terrible situation for those of us with abundant goods.
... On EN3 server the situation is especially difficult for those of us boosted in minerals, I'm close to throwing the towel, I have never been so frustrated with any chapter.
Exactly. Five pages of players demanding minerals. Only a handful of trades demanding anything else, and players offering minerals seemed to have figured out they don't have to use the merchant, they just pick up any trades they want from the five pages of trades looking for minerals.

The merchant in theory may be a good solution to this sort of problem - you have someone to trade with for scarce resources - but at only 1800-2200 goods per trade, and a 6-hr cooldown period, it's ridiculously slow.

The goods per trade needs to be increased, and Inno needs to fix the problem of one type of resource always becoming the one everyone needs.
 

m4rt1n

Mentor
Exactly. Five pages of players demanding minerals. Only a handful of trades demanding anything else, and players offering minerals seemed to have figured out they don't have to use the merchant, they just pick up any trades they want from the five pages of trades looking for minerals.

The merchant in theory may be a good solution to this sort of problem - you have someone to trade with for scarce resources - but at only 1800-2200 goods per trade, and a 6-hr cooldown period, it's ridiculously slow.

The goods per trade needs to be increased, and Inno needs to fix the problem of one type of resource always becoming the one everyone needs.
The Library Set, especially in EN3, players just deleted cities and restarted if they had a scrolls boost. That is the root of the whole problem in my opinion. Only players who started and knew are now at ch18, so eventually it will even out. Maybe a year or two. If only the devs had at the time made the Library set T2 +1 or +2 there would be no issues but for some reason unknown to anyone they just refused.
 

Susie49

Soothsayer
Just reached the chapter and wondering if there any quests for deleting the Traders of Unar portal? Need to know when it’s safe to delete all the Chapter 17 buildings!

Also is Elvanarin Zero still used in Chapter 18 pls, or just Unurium?

Thanks :)
 

FieryArien

Illusionist
wondering if there any quests for deleting the Traders of Unar portal?
This I don’t remember. :-(
However, the general advice in such a case is to build some old portal - Dwarves or Fairies. Deleting it is supposed to work for such a quest. Some say you don’t even need to finish building it before you delete it. (I’ve never tried it myself, though.)
Also is Elvanarin Zero still used in Chapter 18 pls, or just Unurium?
Just Unurium.
 

SkyRider99

Conjurer
Exactly. Five pages of players demanding minerals. Only a handful of trades demanding anything else, and players offering minerals seemed to have figured out they don't have to use the merchant, they just pick up any trades they want from the five pages of trades looking for minerals.

The merchant in theory may be a good solution to this sort of problem - you have someone to trade with for scarce resources - but at only 1800-2200 goods per trade, and a 6-hr cooldown period, it's ridiculously slow.

The goods per trade needs to be increased, and Inno needs to fix the problem of one type of resource always becoming the one everyone needs.
Even more exactly :)

Checked my trader tonight and found 30 pages (!) of players asking for primordial minerals. Including myself!

Well said @Skallywag. Let's not hold our breath on any fix happening though :cool:
 

m4rt1n

Mentor
It's worth checking the trader regularly, I'm on Arendyll and put it lots of merchant offers offering Minerals and they get taken in minutes.

There are pages and pages of players wanting Minerals though so I don't have to use the Merchants, I just do to help others.
 

Skallywag

Novice
Checked my trader tonight and found 30 pages (!) of players asking for primordial minerals. Including myself!
It's been getting worse over time. It's at 31 pages right now. 31 pages of players looking for minerals, and no other goods. I guess Inno is OK with 1/3rd of the players having a distinct advantage over the rest of us.

I get all my minerals through the Merchant - slowly. The other perhaps unintended consequence of which is my notification queue is full of merchant trades, so much that I'm missing visits with players outside my FS because they are falling out of the queue. Every new guest race is a beta test I guess...
 

m4rt1n

Mentor
It's been getting worse over time. It's at 31 pages right now. 31 pages of players looking for minerals, and no other goods. I guess Inno is OK with 1/3rd of the players having a distinct advantage over the rest of us.

I get all my minerals through the Merchant - slowly. The other perhaps unintended consequence of which is my notification queue is full of merchant trades, so much that I'm missing visits with players outside my FS because they are falling out of the queue. Every new guest race is a beta test I guess...
Yes, I meant to mention that, also the handshake in notifications is now useless as merchant fills mine daily. I'm Mineral boost and putting all I can out there, 3 merchants running as I refuse to use hard earned diamonds for trade and spend time some days, and it takes time online for a solid hour to actively use the merchants.

To me it is ridiculous, yes keep the merchant for those stuck, the amounts allowed need to be x10 but also allow free trade, we are all long time players here and know how not to be ripped off by the sharks of the trader, some one in the devs needs to rethink, use the merchant for chapters 1-3 not the guys who have been here years.

Wrapping the players of ch18 in kid gloves to solve a problem caused by the excessive scroll production of the spire that is problematic and crept into sentient production with players thinking it's great to profiteer now, as the game is set that way, hence leaving others not finding trades as they were unfortunate to be scrolls boosted players.

Do the devs play the game or try and solve the scrolls spire issue by making Ascending goods players in ch18 unable to trade properly? @Silmaril and this time not the nonsense reply about scrolls and working 3 ways please?
 
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